Curse

shambolica · Feb 07, 2011, 11:01 PM // 23:01

All dungeons, perhaps also, all quests / vanquishes in Eye of the North (perhaps all missions in all the campaigns + all dungeons), done in hard mode by yourself with just H&H with no cons.

What's a wolf got to do around here to get a hug?!

**Marty Silverblade** · Feb 07, 2011, 11:13 PM // 23:13

This is a terrible idea. Encouraging people to not play with others isn't good. Punishing players who do play with others is bad. Vanquishing is incredibly dull. Giving less rewards to people who do it with others (which makes it faster and gives you someone to talk to) makes no sense whatsoever.

EDIT: Also, this is going to overlap massively with the existing titles.

Uriel_Wolfblood · Feb 08, 2011, 12:36 AM // 00:36

While I love the name of the title, I agree with Marty. Nothing about this is a good idea. You can't have titles based on how you prefer to play the game, especially one that interferes with existing titles.

P.S. I never understood the term lone wolf either, wolves are extremely social creatures that rarely live outside a pack.

Captain Bulldozer · Feb 08, 2011, 01:11 AM // 01:11

No more titles! Several of the existing ones are still crappy enough that adding more shouldn't even be on the list. Plus there's already a title dying repeatedly over and over and over and then killing some stuff (LDoA) which is a much better idea.

Oh and yeah, its a multi-player game, so why encourage people to do things solo?

Steps_Descending · Feb 08, 2011, 01:17 AM // 01:17

I love the concept too, but I'll side with marty and Uriel. I fear this would lead to cry from those who did the titls and need them again as I don't think the game kept track of the number of player in your party. And I fear seeing this :
- Hey guildies, what are you all doing
- VQing (2-3 times)
-can I come?
- No, going for lone wolf (2-3 times)

MIght be possible for "small tasks" like Elite areas or missions (maybe), but definately not something as long as vanquishes.

Shayne Hawke · Feb 08, 2011, 01:24 AM // 01:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

This is a terrible idea. Encouraging people to not play with others isn't good. Punishing players who do play with others is bad.

More of this.

Plus, with seven heroes coming to the Live servers soon, it's going to be easier than ever to do something like this.

/donotwant

Captain Bulldozer · Feb 08, 2011, 01:37 AM // 01:37

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Originally Posted by Uriel_Wolfblood

P.S. I never understood the term lone wolf either, wolves are extremely social creatures that rarely live outside a pack.

I think sometimes in nature wolves go "rogue" and strike out on their own... becoming very aggressive and dangerous to people. I'm pretty sure that explains the etymology of the phrase "lone wolf", though of course its meaning has shifted over time.

RedDog91 · Feb 08, 2011, 02:12 AM // 02:12

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Originally Posted by Captain Bulldozer

I think sometimes in nature wolves go "rogue" and strike out on their own... becoming very aggressive and dangerous to people. I'm pretty sure that explains the etymology of the phrase "lone wolf", though of course its meaning has shifted over time.

A "lone wolf" is one that is kicked out of its pack. Wolves don't "go rouge".
So for this title to make sense, you would have to achieve it by being kicked out of 1,000,000 PuGs.

Martin Alvito · Feb 08, 2011, 02:15 AM // 02:15

The book series your proposed title references has a single protagonist that never has substantial assistance.

If you must reward solo play - no H/H, but whatever cons you want.

The title would be a lot more work than other solo titles such as Survivor, so I don't think that you're likely to be discouraging group play with a title like this.

Junato · Feb 08, 2011, 02:33 AM // 02:33

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Originally Posted by RedDog91

A "lone wolf" is one that is kicked out of its pack. Wolves don't "go rouge".
So for this title to make sense, you would have to achieve it by being kicked out of 1,000,000 PuGs.

Lolz I know some people who would probably gain this title easily

End · Feb 08, 2011, 02:45 AM // 02:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

This is a terrible idea. Encouraging people to not play with others isn't good. Punishing players who do play with others is bad. Vanquishing is incredibly dull. Giving less rewards to people who do it with others (which makes it faster and gives you someone to talk to) makes no sense whatsoever.

EDIT: Also, this is going to overlap massively with the existing titles.

This.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedDog91

So for this title to make sense, you would have to achieve it by being kicked out of 1,000,000 PuGs.

/signed for this though

Divine Ashes · Feb 08, 2011, 03:02 AM // 03:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uriel_Wolfblood

While I love the name of the title, I agree with Marty. Nothing about this is a good idea. You can't have titles based on how you prefer to play the game, especially one that interferes with existing titles.

P.S. I never understood the term lone wolf either, wolves are extremely social creatures that rarely live outside a pack.

I agree with you about the title.

I believe it's called "lone wolf" because of the fact that wolves are normally very social, pack-oriented animals...much like humans to an extent. So, a lone wolf would be very unusual in that it is socially isolated, as a human would be if they were called a "lone wolf".

Rites · Feb 08, 2011, 03:13 AM // 03:13

it was never set in stone that you were to play the game with others

with the recent rise of idiots in game, H/H is actually better than PUGs anyway

besides, i prefer H/H

so yes /signed

though i know it aint gonna happen

gremlin · Feb 08, 2011, 03:22 AM // 03:22

That is maybe a title for another game and lone is lone as in alone so no heroes or Henchmen.

As a title it makes more sense than say legendary defender of ascalon which I abhor with a passion.
Love to know who thought that one up so I could give them a slap.

Unfortunately we have a few pointless and stupid titles and were I able to travel back in time I would happily replace one of those with your idea.

Kojima · Feb 08, 2011, 06:21 AM // 06:21

I play alone.
And I think Guild wars is designed so you could work through it both ways. So if there is a title for doing it solo, then there should be a title for doing it with others too. don't see much sense in it unless there is already a title for playing with others but not one for playing solo.

tiny_the_tokin_bear · Feb 08, 2011, 06:59 AM // 06:59

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Originally Posted by shambolica

All dungeons, perhaps also, all quests / vanquishes in Eye of the North (perhaps all missions in all the campaigns + all dungeons), done in hard mode by yourself with just H&H with no cons.

It's called "Legendary Master of The North".

Spiritz · Feb 08, 2011, 08:57 AM // 08:57

I could be wrong but im guessing the majority of players who have been on gw longer than 1 - 2 yrs ( many vets in other words ) have done probably all missions in hm etc with just h/h and without cons.Does anyone remember the days of doing uw with heros and consets and consumables were not even heard of or used ?
I did NF on a mes with just h/h - why may you ask ... i was bored and wanted to see exactly how hard it would be using a chr im not familair with.
New players need to pug so they can learn game mechanics - havin a daft title means they wont pug and wont really learn much.
/notsigned - coz years ago gw was played by real men ( or women ) without needing sc + consets or playing just h/h all way thru.

the Puppeteer · Feb 08, 2011, 11:38 AM // 11:38

well seeing as every mission area is empty... everyone would have this title ;p

Lord Dagon · Feb 08, 2011, 11:50 AM // 11:50

im sorry but that's a horrible idea....
like the name, but the concept is just really bad.

i do like however the 1,000,000 PUGS thing ^_^

MithranArkanere · Feb 08, 2011, 04:22 PM // 16:22

I'm not against playing alone in any way.

But I don't think I title should be added for it.

In any case, a title for making things with people would be better, like a title that gives you 10 points for each mission completed without heroes (excepting the required ones), 15 points for vanquishes, 25 points for elite missions, 5 points for completing the minimum points in each challenge once with people...
And you could call it: "The Fellowship" title track or something like that.

That would be more or less fine.

But for playing solo?
Nah.